College is About Getting an Education, Not a Job
This rant was inspired by a comment left on this post over at LenPenzo.com. I even wrote a snarky reply comment, something I don’t usually do. Sorry, Len.
I get the student loan crisis. I really do. I graduated with my BA in 2000, and thirteen years later, I still owe 82% of what I borrowed (though I also made some choices post-graduation that have led to this). And I only seriously borrowed for about 3 semesters. My total undergraduate student loan debt was less than I paid for my second new car. I cannot imagine what it much be like for people who needed to borrow for their entire college career.
At the same time, I have to admit, I am getting sick of all this STEM talk. Let me rephrase that because I have nothing against Science, Technology, Engineering or Math. Heck, C is planning on getting a PhD in math. What I am sick of is this new belief that it is not worth it to go to college unless you are planning to get a degree in a STEM field, because those are supposedly the only degrees that will get you a job that is worth getting a degree for.
I want this rant to be readable, so we will not even go into the fact that the vast majority of jobs (including jobs which require a degree) are not STEM jobs. What I really want to know is when did the purpose of going to college become about getting a job?
Yes, everyone always plans on getting a job after college. And most people plan on getting a job somewhat related to what they have studied in college. But up until recently, the purpose of college was never about getting a job. It was about getting an education. Employers hired people with college degrees for certain jobs because they knew the person had been trained to THINK, not just do a routine task.
In the past, if your purpose in getting extra schooling/training was to get a specific job, you went to a vocational or trade school. Or you became an apprentice in a trade. Carpenters, plumbers, machinists, etc, still make really good money. But the construction foreman, the project manager, etc, almost certainly also has a college degree on top of any trade training for a reason- college teaches a person to think, to problem solve, and to deal with the unexpected.
Yes, there are professional degrees that prepare you specifically for a job – MD, JD, DVM, DDS. But all of those degrees are graduate level degrees- meaning they require that you have a four year bachelors degree first- not a certificate in being a medical assistant, paralegal, vet tech or dental hygienist, not four years’ experience in one of those jobs, but a four year college degree. Because that degree represents not that you can do the routine parts of the job, but that you have learned to think in a way that is needed by those professions.
Am I biased? I have to be. My undergraduate degree is in history with a minor in writing. I also have an MBA. Neither of those are STEM degrees. C is excelling in his higher level math classes not because he’s naturally good at math but because he has a philosophy background. Math proofs and philosophical proofs are nearly identical- you follow a logical line of reasoning based on what you know and what you do not know. The fact that C once majored in philosophy actually makes it easier for him to understand and follow the proofs once you stop doing computational math and move on to mathematical theory.
Do I believe that a college education is necessary for certain jobs? Absolutely. I could not be where I am without one. But going to college did not train me for a job. It did not get me a job. It taught me to think in a way that employers have found valuable.
If you want to go to college, go to college. And if you want a STEM degree, get one. But please, stop thinking of a four year college as a vocational school. It is not there to get you a job. It is there to teach you to think. And if you can think, there’s no job you cannot do.
I totally agree! I have known engineers who hate their career because they pursued a practical degree and liberal arts majors who just applied their degree to a career. In fact, I worked for a president who had an English degree. BTW, he was the 6th nominee for the Heisman a very long time ago. Yes, it is harder for liberal arts majors and they will have to enter a training program, but so what!
Good post, Erin! And no offense taken. 🙂
I understand your frustration. The trouble is, most colleges have increased tuition prices so much over the past three decades that the cost of "learning how to think" has become prohibitively expensive at those institutions — so much so now that the average grad is being stuck with an unconscionable debt burden. And that makes the return-on-college-investment an important factor for many people who are trying to decide whether or not college is even worth pursuing. It's sad, I know. But it's a fact of life.
If this keeps up, there are going to be certain STEM degrees that won't even have a decent ROI.
As a fellow history major, I also believe education is about teaching you how to think. While I have worked in historical societies, I've never had a problem finding work in any field because I have a strong work ethic and can figure out how to do stuff.
My friend's husband worked as a manager at a chemical company for years with a philosophy degree. His bosses found that he thought more flexibly than the chemical engineers and was able to lead his team more effectively.
Here's one of my worries: this country idolizes business people. But every time I try to read a "business" book, I give up in agony. Why? Because it's written in short sound bites with a summary at the end of every chapter. Apparently business people aren't smart enough to read a real book. And don't get me started with people who consider Ayn Rand an intellectual.
And this is who a significant percentage of our country thinks has the answers to social and economic problems?!
BTW, I loved your snarky response. I had to stop reading LenPenzo.com because I found it increasingly irritating.
I'm sorry my writings on rational selfishness irritated you; I think most people who are dismissive of Ayn Rand will find my blog to be "irritating."
I'm making sure both of my teenagers read Atlas Shrugged before they leave for college — specifically, so they'll understand what really makes the world go round.
Who is John Galt?
I already knew how to think, so I used college to get a degree so I could get interviews so I could get a job. I've honestly learned more about the real world and how to think to succeed as an entrepreneur than I ever did in college or the regular working world. But I do understand the value of knowing how to learn. I just think college could be a waste if you already know (I sort of feel like it was a waste for me except I met my husband there, lol).
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Terrific post! I went to school for engineering, sorry, haha, and the job that was lined up for me disappeared. Who knows a blessing in disguise as I may have ended up unhappy? A fellow engineering classmate works in an unrelated field and does many side projects. We both joked that we both ended up with non-engineering careers. I was forced to change careers, but the training I received did help me to think and adapt to my current career in IT.
i totally agree with you.. getting a good job seems to be the reason why people get degrees these days not the education
This needs to be discussed with a high school student before he/she chooses which school they will attend. If this is the case, then admissions offices should declare their post-graduate employment data and this "philosophy" in an informed consent to applicants to whom they offer admission before they charge them for tuition to allow them to make an informed decision. Perhaps they will agree that paying 30K or more per year for the pleasure of learning to think in School A is better than learning to think and getting a job while paying 20k per year to attend school B. Training someone to think and feeling good about it while creating an indentured servant who cannot possibly repay the loans for the skills received is theft.