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Larry and the Ball

June 28, 2012 | Filed under: At the Dog Park

Last night while at the dog park, we were walking up the path with a dog trainer/walker who was there with a pack of dogs. She had a couple balls she was throwing for the dogs in her group. Naturally, Larry was interested.

She asked why Larry didn’t have his own ball. We explained that he did, but that at the dog park, he was rarely interested in his own ball- he was interested in other dog’s balls.

She made a couple comments about his Terrierness meaning he should have a high prey drive, and also something about how if we were excited by the ball, he would be more excited by the ball.

She’s not someone we’d ever met before, and we chose to not get into a deep discussion, but on some level, it was annoying. You may be a trainer, but you are not my dog’s trainer, and you really don’t know anything about him.

Larry has major prey drive- major. He loves playing fetch- well, he loves chasing after things. He doesn’t so much like giving them back. At home, he’ll run after anything we throw- ball, stuffed animal, tennis stick.

At the park, sometimes he is interested in his ball. He certainly knows what a chuck-it is. But more often than not, he is interested in the chuck-it held by another person, the ball thrown for another dog.

When he starts showing interest in someone else’s chuck-it, we will often pull out his, wave it in front of his face and be all excited. He doesn’t care. He is now focused on this other chuck-it and ball.

We’ll break his focus, get him away from that person/dog (so that the other dog can chase their ball in peace) and wave his chuck-it in front of his face again. Sometimes he’s interested, sometimes he’s not.

Maybe if we worked with a trainer, we could figure out exactly what triggers his intense desire to chase balls thrown by other people, but not by us.

My best guess is that when he gets another dog’s ball, it then results in the additional game of keep away, for which he gets a treat when he gives up the ball. The thing is, in trying to teach him to give his ball back to us, we offer treats to get it back as well, but maybe we’re not as dedicated to winning the keep away game when there’s not another dog who wants its ball back.

So here’s the deal. Yes, Larry has high prey drive. He does indeed love to chase after balls. But he would always, always, prefer to chase after someone else’s.

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10 Responses to "Larry and the Ball"

  1. Leslie says:
    June 28, 2012 at 4:27 am

    That picture is sooooooooooo cute! Larry is a little doll so if he wants to play with his ball or somebody else's, I can't imagine wanting to stop him. 😉

    Having a fearful dog, you have no idea how many "trainers" we meet in our journeys who are ready to tell us everything we're doing wrong with Bella. Ah well, as long as they don't try to touch her, I have learned to just roll with it.

    1. Erin Shanendoah says:
      June 28, 2012 at 5:22 am

      Well, the other dog would usually like it's ball back. And we've had some scraps with ball possessive dogs, but never anything major.

      The funny thing, to me, is that we've never before met anyone who didn't get it. Most of the time we'll tell people that he's more interested in their ball than his and they nod and say, "oh yeah, my other dog is like that". Regular dog owners get it. It makes me wonder how much of a "trainer" this woman was.

  2. KimT says:
    June 28, 2012 at 7:21 am

    I'm going to stick my neck out here on this one…but I've come across too many trainers who think they know it all about dogs they've never met, and I just think they're not as all-knowing as they tell themselves. And I find it annoying!

    He is one adorable boy!! I'm with Leslie – he can do what he wants! lol

    1. Erin Shanendoah says:
      June 28, 2012 at 9:09 am

      He absolutely cannot do whatever he wants. Boy is all Terrier. I start letting him get way with anything (well, more than he already gets away with) and suddenly, there's a new boss at my house.

  3. jan says:
    June 28, 2012 at 9:43 am

    Other people’s stuff always looks better than our own. And we all know where the grass is greener.

    1. Erin Shanendoah says:
      June 28, 2012 at 12:19 pm

      Most people seem to understand this. I had to wonder how much experience the trainer had if she’s never met a dog who is more fascinated by other’s toys than his own before.

  4. John Chanellor says:
    June 28, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Whenever we take our dog out, you always come across people who give you training advice and to obviously point out where you're going wrong. It also annoys me, they're not with our dogs all day, we are, we know them better than them!

    1. Erin Shanendoah says:
      July 3, 2012 at 12:48 am

      I never mind hearing new ideas for handling a problem behavior, but I think the way it is presented is important. People asking me if I've tried something is better than people telling me how I'm doing things wrong.

  5. 2 Punk Dogs says:
    June 30, 2012 at 6:24 am

    Larry is such a punk terrier! I would have been annoyed at the trainer too, as it's not like you were asking for advice on developing toy drive. She was probably hoping that you would be impressed by her "insight" and would want to hire her.

    We get lots of "great" advice in socializing our fearful dogs. It's funny when people who don't have a lot of experience with fearful dogs and think that "all dogs like them" try to call our dogs to them. The Mr. always tells them it's not going to happen, don't take it personally. So many do though.

    1. Erin Shanendoah says:
      July 3, 2012 at 12:52 am

      Well, you know, if I ever meet your dogs, they will love me from the instant they smell me. All dogs love me… (It may have something to do with the duck jerky that is almost always in my pocket at the dog park.)

      And maybe you're right, maybe that's how she tries to drum up business, but it's certainly not how I would hire a trainer. I like someone who actually listens to what I'm saying about my dogs, instead of just discounting my opinion because they are a trainer.

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